He believes he is a self appointed apostle with a "Last Reformation" belief system. He told us that He is our ONLY Teacher Matthew 23:8-10; and the 5 fold ministry He has gifted to His Body, is Him, so let us seek His understanding to find out who are those of Him and those who are false 5 fold ministers.. To make it clear, I am not trying to obey God in all things knowing that I am walking in disobedience. Yeah, I think the bottom line is that people really need to read their bible more, and pray as you do it. 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Die letzte Reformation (berarbeitete Neuausgabe 2020) - Buch (Paperback) von Sndergaard, Torben | GloryWorld-Medien | Besuchen Sie uns online unter www.buchhaus.ch oder in einer unserer Buchhandlungen. Just because someone says its true doesnt make it true. So what does it look like when you have a whole congregation full of demons, principalities, powers, rulers of wickedness, familiar spirits, witchcraft practicioners.and then the Glory of God comes to set people free all at once? a) of those startled by strange sights or occurrences Or are these myths? This move of God will not be among a hyper spiritual exclusive fringe group of religiois zealots but will be among the grassroots culturally mainstream families among regular moms and dads, children, marketplace workers, friends and nieghbours . These two are Gods fool proof acid tests . The gangrene is gone; you are healed. Are you sure what the difference is between washing with water and washing by blood? Jhn 17:11 NASB I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. The MANIFESTATIONS of demons are NORMAL when people are praying for DELIVERANCE AND CASTING THEM OUT. Lets see why: Baptism in water was for Jewish unbelievers. But it takes a lot of hard work, time, and money to do what we do. Torben is the founder of The Last Reformation, a worldwide movement that seeks to return Christianity to the Book of Acts. I think for me the times when I am like the disciples who were arguing I personally have been most apt to get into debate about this issue is when I am not in the game as much as I would like to be . USURPING the role of the Holy Spirit is very dangerous for ones health and welfare.check the scriptures. They are still carrying the sting of it, instead of saying, O death where is thy sting? The descent into normalizing WIERDSVILLE: Step 1. I think the scripture says THEY BELIEVED. For the promise is to you and your children and to all who are afar off, as many as the Lord our God will call. The Holy Spirit jumped for joy within me. Yet these men have said that God did these things and gave glory to Him. He then slapped his hands on the shoulder itself and commanded the arm to grow out. Even the promise od Jesus coming is questioned . My kids and I actually went out and did it too. And God really isnt interested whether you like what He is doing or not. I arose to go to him but found my body was trembling so violently that I had great difficulty in walking across the room, and especially in controlling the trembling of my hands and arms. This was a huge pitfall I saw with the Toronto Blessing when I was there. According to Torben Sndergaard, God made him time travel back to before he was born as a confirmation[27]. What I am understanding is that the right hand needs to forget what the left hand is doing, otherwise its a slippery slide away from simplicity down into spiritual harlotry, and turning the simple, holy things and gifts of God into a circus. I just read Luke 7 where Jesus raises the widows son from the dead and great fear and rejoicing fell on all the crowd. In addition, the supposed anatomical phenomenon of a shorter leg, has been used by chiropractors as well. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? God doesnt like strange fire being mixed with His; its very distasteful. What I understand is that the Lord desires to manifest His manifold wisdom to the powers and principalities, not to man so much. Arrested NOT. Definition of WEIRD So, are you saying that water baptism is necessary to be saved and receive eternal life? [8]Lack of healing is caused by a lack of faithwhich is Word of Faith doctrine to the core. Torben Sndergaard hijacks you on the spot, does a willy nilly prayer with you, lays hands on you in the street, or dunks you under water at a baptism, a demon manifests (but does not actually leave), and then he lays hands on you again and forces that Spirit of FIRE into you until you speak in tongues, which according toTorben Sndergaard proves you are now truly saved. But when the apostles Barnabas and Paul heard of it, they tore their robes and rushed out into the crowd, crying out and saying, Men, why are you doing these things? It is the spirit of writing off Thedude said, He was baptized as a baby in the state church and later confirmed, but it was only because of tradition. Pretty messybut pretty amazing that God loves people that much, There were plenty of historical (1700s and 1800s and early 1900s)revival preachers that wrote about being unprepared for what it looks like for a whole congregation to be deliveredit scared them, it made them doubt that it was of God because it was so bizarre. Those who CANNOT GIVE UP CONTROL TO THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL NOT MANIFEST THE FRUIT OR THE GIFTS. Are FEARMONGERS walking by the Holy Spirit? A wooden staff that turns into a snake. Paul had an awful time with those type of people as we can see in Gal and Rom and also the author of Hebrews. Andrew, I am very disappointed that I come here with what I think is grace and humility attempting to speak from Gods word, and yet the response is more name calling and calling me to repentance. In the NT, Jesus is dealing with 1 demoniac at a time.in one instance (the herd of pigs incident) there were 2 demoniacs. You will receive an email and you will need to confirm your subscription. And it is the church of the future. Next, Sister Lankford told of the man with no arm. UNQUOTE. The predominant aim of Revelation is the setting forth the splendours of the Son of Man, & to reveal His glorious person. Perfect love casts out fear. So true about trying to put each other into boxes or us having to do such & such etc. All I was doing was pointing out that the video evidence alone doesnt prove what it purports to prove. Then we have WALKING ON WATER.PETER DID TOO for a short time. His reply? Just a glimpse of God`s great work. God said to the Apostles, and therefore also to us today Wait upon the Holy Spirit for the power from on high (for the HS unction) and then go out. How sad it will be ONE DAY AFTER HIS COMING but for many it will be TOO LATE. But let Gods people yield to Jesus and let their Jesus light shine out of them and the world will begin to hate Gods people, will begin to respect Gods people, will begone to fear Gods people and multitudes will begin to LISTEN TO GODS PEOPLE for the lost sheep will begin hear the voice of the Shepherd IN HIS PEOPLE AND WILL FOLLOW HIM. Please let the Holy Spirit discern, not flesh judgement!! This video does a VERY poor job showing that these people are doing. I have experience many healing on the streets and meetings out side the church because the church is afraid these healing might take. As proof of the spiritual authenticity of Torbens healings, you rely upon multitudes of people supporting your position. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. The Holy Spirit will prepare that soil ACCORDING to what works with that particular person. That may have been more of satans intent than the immediate deceptions he caused. Awesome testimony, Barry Schmidt. The man removed the wooden leg and stood before Seymour standing on his one good leg. Shame on you skeptics! I hear people say we GLORIFY You, Lord, Glory to the Lord, give GLORY to the Lord, if it GLORIFIES the Lord etc etc. The Gospel of Luke is about Christ the Mediator, the One who is touched with the feelings of our infirmities. `in His right hand He held 7 stars.`, This shows the executive activity of the enthroned Son of Man. Paul Benson A Bottomless Bucket (Part 5), Paul Benson An anti-Dispensational Bottomless Bucket (Part 4), Verily,verily,I sayunto thee,Excepta manbe bornof, ,he cannotenterintothe kingdomof God., These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have, Latter Rain Teaching / Dominionism / Kingdom Now, page recently and I find it very interesting, https://www.youtube.com/user/DanishEvangelist, The Biblical Holy Spirit vs. He tells us to wait, to wait in our Jerusalem for the power from on high, for the spirits unction and then to go out. Andrew J, at least you dont call Bill Johnson a cancer on the Body of Christ! Sndergaard's attorneys are filing an appeal. Torben is the founder of The Last Reformation, a worldwide movement that seeks to return Christianity to the Book of Acts. with legs growing out instead of the more impressive healings Etc, etc. They believe in the Divinity, they must be our brother/sister, right? Remember Moses staff and miracles brother? Let the cheap Jesus impersonations cease! The world will always recognize Jesus when He is given right of way in His people. The only authority I have is through our Lord Jesus and I rely on His word as given to us in scriptures. EVERY sin and iniquity can be traced back to NOT BELIEVING 1 or any number of these 5 statements below. This movement is helping the Church come back to the life we read about. Where was the encouragement to `know Him more?`, I hope that as you read that misinformation that you will realise that it is not pointing us to our precious Lord, but just a confusing 1)God is Who HE SAID HE IS. But where are these authentic Jesus miracles in WIERDSVILLE ? But I have To your credit, you were honest and admitted as such. signs/wonders (using the gifts given us) will follow and subsequently souls saved for the Kingdom. And He asked them, What are you discussing with them? And one of the crowd answered Him, Teacher, I brought You my son, possessed with a spirit which makes him mute; and whenever it seizes him, it slams him to the ground and he foams at the mouth, and grinds his teeth and stiffens out. We need to cry out every day to God and say Lord I want more and He loves to hear us say this. If we start treating them as playthings and as idols, then we are as those trying to carry and play with fire with bare hands, and I have been a witness of this. And guess what happened? Watchful..I found where Paul makes that statement about FEARING for the church in Corinth. Jhn 17:18 NASB As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. Barry Schmidt said: I remembered how many times in gospels it says, they came to Jesus to. Or they brought to Jesus a man who. We dont have to make it happen- God will bring people to Jesus IN US if only we will yield to Jesus and let Him use us!!! They are not satisfied with belonging to Jesus, they would make Jesus belong to them. Our household is transformed, and being renewed daily by the Holy Spirit of Grace, by witch we are saved through faith in Jesus Christ our Lord. Mar 9:40 KJV For he that is not against us is on our part. This is how His Kingdom comes in the earth! It also helps with our conversation to each other to be encouraging & uplifting, & helps us to discern error when people would give us (Luke 5: 13) I am so thankful that there are faithful saints who yield to the simplicity of the gospel and have the nerve to go out and reach people in streets. Many months later, I was made aware that an O/S visitor with healing ministry was in the area I prayed about this and was convicted that God would heal me that evening. It's time we start obeying Jesus' words and make disciples of all nations. I did nothing of myself ! Now that says to me that maybe those people throwing charlatan accusations had best be careful how they choose to voice their skepticism because if this is the work of the Holy Spirit, and I believe it is, then you are in a lot of trouble. The fact that He never did such things was not simply that He wanted to make his followers honest and sincere, but also because He was communicating Life, and building a kingdom not of this world or according to its principles. Bless you. Many genuine Christians will think they are missing out on something special if they dont speak in gibberish that God favours those who speak in tongues more than those who dont. (Hebrews 9:22). God doesnt need your help in getting His truth out. Lets compare this to what Torben is doing. I believe Torben has been shown a number of things that are In 1995, he committed his life to Christ and felt God calling him to ministry. Look at the FAITH shown in His Prayer of John 17. A glory cloud rose up at Johnsons church (there is even a youtube video of it) which many say was Gods glory falling and others showed it to be just glitter ( I think of Gods glory falling in past revivals and before Israel and how it brought their faces to the floor). 1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.. Fearmongers is a negative description of people who warn others. I dont even have the right words for the understanding that I do have, or think I have. Stay informed with the latest from CBN News delivered to your inbox. If on the other hand a man (like Torbin) comes doing miracles in Jesus name preached the message of the cross of Christ , calls for repentance and faith alone in Christ Jesus and whose godly lifestyle can be verified by those in the community who have know him personally THAT MAN IS SENT BY GOD! If water was able to wash away sins, we would have had no need of Jesus becoming flesh, of his cross, and of his blood. To show this . 2000 years agp the worldly people called Yeshuas followers Christians. We dont have to obey the law because the Father himself now tells us what is right and what is wrong. And he went into all the region around the Jordan, preaching a baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, as it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet, saying: The voice of one crying in the wilderness: Prepare the way of the Lord; Make His paths straight. Gods whole plan was to tabernacle with man, and yet the Hebrews wanted Moses to hear from God and they would do whatever God told Moses to tell them to do. 3) I am who God said I am So it really upsets me to hear all the accusations people are No Manuels, no charging new Christians money so they can also heal the sick, no techniques, just a very simple prayer in Jesus name and IT WORKS! People who obsess about theological nuances like demonic possession and baptism tend to produce the same division they are complaining about. A Florida immigration judge has denied evangelist Torben Sndergaard's request for asylum. As the Bible says, we are to not only test the spirits, but we are to examine ourselves (2 Cor. Like just maybe he wants His fire burning, and not that of others? He is SUPERNATURAL AND MYSTERIOUS. Former followers, former board members of the organisation, the press, other churches, and professionals have described his organisation, The Last Reformation, as extreme, dangerous, and a cult. So when people tell me I try to obey the Lord , God showed me that really means no I do not obey Him always . WHO does the KEEPING? Or occurrences or are these authentic Jesus miracles in WIERDSVILLE did these things and glory... His manifold wisdom to the core torben sondergaard bethel below the earth what we do he then slapped His hands on shoulder... 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