Then we'd mow the guy down with an M4. The United States Military Academy (USMA), also known metonymically as West Point or simply as Army, is a United States service academy in West Point, New York.It was originally established as a fort, since it sits on strategic high ground overlooking the Hudson River with a scenic view, 50 miles (80 km) north of New York City. Command Sergeant Major: CSM Scott Drewes: The West Point Band (also known as the U.S. Military Academy Band or USMA Band) is the U.S. Army's oldest active band and the oldest unit at the United States Military Academy, traces its roots to the American Revolutionary War. And get to know your PBO very well! IMCOM Directorate - Training, n Deputy/Director Fort Bragg, NC Somebody at USMA needs to ensure cadets are informed about their precedence in the order of ranks and teach them that while they are at AOT/CLTC, etc. come from many NCO's who claim that "NCO's are the backbone of the Army". Prior to joining the West Point Band, Staff Sergeant Rivers interned at Billboard Magazine and Knopf Publishing. Or a sergeant major for that matter. When you focus on things that scare you to death, always remember that those are your fears and we're not concerned with achieving the next rank or a nice review. Before assuming responsibility, Coffey was the command sergeant major for the 3rd Infantry Division at Fort Stewart, Georgia. I believe my words only carried weight because I've already been in the Army for 10 years and the Senior cadre knew this (I didn't get in any trouble). DeCA, West Point Commissary adjust . She has also worked as a freelance designer for local musicians and events. In other words, each the SNCO and the cadet would be functioning appropriately. She has earned a Bachelor Professional Studies - Business and Management and a Master of Science in Management - Human Resources Management both from Excelsior College. More than likely you are just privileged. Sir. Does the cadet need to be regularly assigned to a Cadet billet? You probably dont salute WOs either because you think theyre beneath you as well. NCOs are the backbone of the Army and run the Army day to day (as opposed to commanding it). Read the regs CAREFULLY people, when you want to use them to make a point. Without these people, "How do you become "ELite"! They won't forget what you've shown them and they will resent you. The cadet would still have to be "Regularly Assigned". Nurses don't outrank med students or vice-versa. I never saluted another LT after that as an LT. So when would a cadet actually be in charge? Through conversations, we get better LT's coming out of ROTC or NCO's newly converted to O grade.. Its not so much AR, but UCMJ. Technically. I learned something that day. ). They assume command until relieved by proper authority except as provided in 2-8c. Aviation Cadet training was 15 months. West Point outlines quarantine, isolation guidelines in playbook April 1, 2020. Strangely enough, the Services expect the exact same behavior as "officers and gentlemen" (and of course ladies) from cadets and midshipmen, as they are also subject to Article 133, even lacking a commission, and some are dismissed from the Service every year for violating Article 133. Scott welcomes story ideas and feedback on his articles, and can be reached athavokjournal@havokmedia.com. Speed is your friend in a convoy, never drive slower than the rest of the civilian traffic, that way when a bad guy is trying to catch up to your convoy, he sticks out big time and the rear vehicle can easily engage him. The cadet only holds E-6 equivalency. Allow them to lead you too! I do not cater to idiots and refuse to acknowledge someone that does not even respect the rank they expect their subordinates to respect. A (knight) officer is a commissioned officer and formally addressed as "SIR!" You earn everything in the Army. I would argue that the NCO/CO rivalries have started as a result of more modern times as compared to past wars and generations and honestly it should stop. The only regularly assigned cadets are in the national guard or reserves as a SMP Cadet. If married his spouse is always addressed a "Lady so and so.". I agree with you Sir. I'm popping into the conversation late, but I completely agree (not that you can argue with the regs). I found myself going toe to toe with these junior NCOs and enlisted, but not to destroy their souls (as the NCO in me wanted to do so badly) but to talk to them and help them understand that if you treat these cadets like crap, it will be returned 10 fold in a year when they commission, hate NCOs, and are their raters. which makes it pretty clear that West Point cadets do, in fact, outrank Army NCOs. Before joining the band, she served as an adjunct faculty member of the University of Maryland School of Music, where she also earned her Master of Music in trumpet performance. But only a complete cadidiot would get his or her cadet rank confused with an NCOs authority and influence. Time to Plan for Drones in Other Domains, An Urban Warfare Experts Christmas Wish List, The MWI Top Ten: Our Most Read Articles of 2022, Frank Sobchak Joins MWI as Chair of Irregular Warfare Studies, Announcing the Modern War Institutes 202223 Senior and Research Fellows, Call for Submissions: Civil-Military Relations and Modern War, Call for Applications: MWIs 202223 Fellows Program. Good Grunts care less for their next promotion beyond making sure our records are correct. The Army isnt some pay your dues ol boys club anymore. 354th Civil Engineering Squadron, n USAF Civil Engineering Officer Grand Forks AFB, ND I was surprised at the gate when I was saluted by the gate personnel. Most recently, CSM Craven was the Command Sergeant Major for the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington. They've shown great patience, respected my process, and I am grateful for these SFCs, MSGs, and SGMs. Even if that enlisted man is the Sgt Maj of the Army. Its cadets like you that become true leaders, because you have put your ego in check and will EARN the respect of your troops! Thats what the reg says, but how does that work in practice? It was never the SNCOs, it was always a SSG, SGT, or junior enlisted Soldier disrespecting these cadets (myself included). The reason you would place cadets above enlisted in the rank chart is because they will be officers. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of The reason "cadets" are even mention in a gentlemans role is due to long ago medieval social customs. Her accolades include a Grammy Award for "Best Engineered Album - Classical," engineering and mastering credits on multiple Grammy-nominated albums, an "Award of Excellence" from the Audio Engineering High Resolution Recording Competition, and a Downbeat Award for "Best Engineering for a Live Recording." Medical students do not do anything on their own authority, and it would be illegal as they are unlicensed. This rank business is a technicality of the rank system. Command Sergeant Major Fraser awards and decorations include: Meritorious Service Medal (1 SOLC, 1OLC), Army Commendation Medal (2 OLC), Army Achievement Medal (1 SOLC, 4 OLC), Presidential Unit Citation, Joint Meritorious Unit, Army Superior Unit, Army Good Conduct Medal (Numeral 6) Defense Service Medal, Kosovo Campaign Ribbon, Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal, Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, Korean Defense Service Medal, Noncommissioned Officers Professional Development Ribbon (Numeral 5), Armed Forces Service Medal, Military Outstanding Volunteer Service Medal, Army Service Ribbon, Overseas Service Ribbons (Numeral 3), NATO Medal, Drill Sergeant Identification Badge, Drivers Badge, German Schuetzenschnur Marksmanship Award (Silver), a recipient of the Honorable Order of Saint Barbara, the Noble Patron of Honor, the Martyrdom of Saint Maurice, the COL Robert L. Manning Achievement Medal, and the Order of Horatio Gates Bronze Medal. Every. He has developed the course SS493 Music & Influence, which he teaches in the Department of Social Sciences. But only a complete cadidiot would get his or her cadet rank confused with an NCO's authority and influence. Assumption of command under these conditions is announced per paragraph 2-5. Salute were means of communication. Now by chance he.be in a billet at some hq and psperwork comes in front of him about ration counts for personnel and what the job description calls for for a 3m Senior Cook requisition.. for his order.. what its called these days) hell be sble to understand better what the job description says. Yes I have seen a misguided ROTC cadet DEMAND a salute from an E-9 once. Command Sergeant Major Glidewell entered the United States Army in July 1981, and completed Basic Training at Fort Jackson, SC. Other notable assignments include working within the 2/320, United States Military Academy Preparatory School, Simon Center for the Professional Military Ethic. Knights lifted their helmet to recognize they friends from enemy. The views expressed are those of the authors, and do not reflect the official position of the United States Military Academy, Department of the Army, or Department of Defense. While Deployed with the Corps in support of Operation Inherent Resolve, he also assumed duties as the Combined Joint Task Force (OIR) J-3 Sergeant Major. Mr. Erik D. Mitchell assumed the position of Deputy to the Garrison Commander, USAG West Point (IMCOM Directorate - Training), on December 20, 2020. The U.S. Army, alerted that the command sergeant major of U.S. Military Academy, West Point reportedly violated the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) by tweeting criticism of former President Donald Trump and also targeted Republican Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, and Ohio GOP Rep. Jim Jordan has commenced an investigation. So fairly similar arrangement as with cadets. Future leader in some position in our AF. You can't lead if you don't know how to follow. And yet, the UCMJ does hold all commissioned officers, including CW2-CW5, accountable for their behavior, as they are subject to Article 133, Conduct Unbecoming and Officer and Gentlemen. The best way to train cadets to be officers that their soldiers will look up to and their NCOs will respect is to treat them the way you want them to act. It would have sent enough juice thru the not yet graduate nor commissioned idiots heart to stop. How would a cadet be regularly assigned? My first platoon leader was OCS, my other two were USMA. Your email address will not be published. Most of us own our own firearms and body armor because we assume nothing but pray for the best. I was a 13B20-Gunner. CSM Cravens military education includes all levels of the Non-Commissioned Officer Education System culminating with the United States Army Sergeants Major Academy. Maj. Michael A. Crosby, left, bears the colors of Army Futures Command, as General Mark Milley, 23rd Secretary of the Army Mark Esper, and General John M. Murray unfurl the colors on 24 August 2018, in Austin, Texas A command sergeant major ( CSM) is a non-commissioned rank and position of office in the United States Army. It's virtually guaranteed there are at least one or two SNCO in a given company qualified to take a short term command of the company. It's hilarious when reality trumps the entitlement issues of a newly hatched fetus. original name United States Military Academy at West Point insignia cadets sleeve rank and duty insignia. By Command Sgt. Warrant Officers are formally addressed as "Mister." Technically, they aren't even qualified to fulfill a team leader slot. Very nice endorsements. No Salute should be required or rendered. Cadets are Officers period and should be rendered the appropriate courtesy. entitled to the salute.". The garrison supports a base population of over 16,500 Soldiers, Civilians, Family Members, and Contractors as well as supporting over 40,000 retirees in the area. Nobody reads your comments past the first four lines. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Jesus.. Rrrrr matey, were be that 3rd Lieutenant. And I declined two Bronze Stars because some senior Officer decided to dispense them for every Officer and Senior NCO in theater! The West Point Music Research Center is dedicated to understanding and communicating the effects of music through multi-disciplinary research and analysis. My CTLT with D 1/47th IN (1983) was an amazing experience preparing me to enter an Army in transition, and the esprit de corps and commitment to duty extended from CPT Barber to every member of the command, even their temporary members (a USMA Cadet and me), with especially valuable membership from NCOs in the command. It was priceless to see the look of surprise on my former XOs face when I walked into my old unit on a drill weekend. But Im sure he felt stung just a little bit. In my experience we rarely see a decent new officer come out of West Point and it's really sad. I did 24 years in the ARMY and have been led by West Pointers! In fact, based on my experience there are some West Pointers out there who never learned that. They aren't " in the pipeline" yet regarding training , experience or anything else yet. In flight school cadets qualified for flight pay in addition to their regular pay. Scott welcomes story ideas and feedback on his articles, and can be reached at, ts summertime, and for many cadets in the Armys ROTC programs and at West Point, that means . As an humorous aside, earlier I mentioned that the junior officers in my reserve unit treated cadets as little more than errand boys. Upon the successful completion of flight school cadets received their flight wings and were commissioned as second lieutenants and incured an additional four year service commitment. And keep your mouth open and eyes covered with your hands when it or any other explosion goes off near you. So glad I longer serve. Officers, commissioned warrant officers, midshipmen, cadets, candidates are all affordedofficer status. As the DGC, he manages Garrison staff operations in support of the United States Military Academy mission. It can be a very valuable and rewarding experience if done right and an unfortunate waste of time for the CDT and unit if its not. Staff Sergeant Megan Cardone joined the West Point Band in March of 2011. Your comment reeks of arrogance. Long story short: Years of hands-on experience trumps reading an instruction manual, This applies in every situation and every single time. I never got gigged for not saluting another LT, so I didnt think much of it. WO1s even as appointed Officers are subject to all provisions of the UCMJ even art 33. Hope this was brief enough for you or TL:DR? He earned his Bachelor of Music in trumpet performance and music education from Ithaca College in Ithaca, New York. The cadet does not outrank a senior NCO E7 or above. Master Sergeant Carla Loy Song became a member of the West Point Band in 2007. No idea if it is being taught now at BNCOC or ANCOC. Staff Sergeant Chrissy Rivers joined the West Point Band in September of 2010. Podcast The rank of a cadet is for protocol issues alone such as where to stand in a receiving line or where to sit at a formal dinner. The one group that actually gave us respect and tried to help and mentor us were the senior NCOs. Staff Sergeant Paul Hadwiger, from Kirksville, Missouri, joined the West Point Band in July of 2018. She earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts in graphic design from the School of Visual Arts in New York City. In addition, CSM Whiteford served two tours at the U.S . You know this, you are assigned as whatever rank you have in the guard. This should not turn into a them vs us type of debate. Directorate of Public Works, n Director, RDT&E Division Port Hueneme, CA Specifically, it allows them to try their hands at officership, and to get a feel for the kinds of officer/NCO relationships that are essential to the success of our Army. Be safe out there, use the "recon by fire" method if probing a road and drop to the ground when a frag is near you, the explosion goes up and away. If cadets, during this valuable leadership experience, are not given the chance to act as lieutenants and acting platoon leaders, then the whole CLTC program should be scrapped. To this day I credit a lot of the success I had when I went on active duty after I graduated to this great NCO. After enlisting in the US Army in 1984 as a Field Artillery surveyor, Master Sergeant (Promotable) Jeffrey Morris found his way to the Cyber Branch via the Air Force Institute of Technology in Ohio, earning a PhD in Systems Engineering and a follow-on assignment as the Sergeant Major of the Army Cyber Institute at West Point. As it turns out, West Point cadets *do* outrank Army noncommissioned officers (NCOs). Cadets are not commissioned nor do they possess a warrant. Life 101. They are TDY for a few weeks therefore their authority only extends to West Point. From the junior officer perspective we were seen as coffee and errand boys. 2-8. Still though, the cadet might be assigned to the unit based on the Modified Table of Organization and Equipment (MTO) to a non cadet billet. This essay is an unofficial expression of opinion; the views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of West Point, the Department of the Army, U.S. I thought this is a very well written article. I wondered about it at the time and this reminded me of it, is this more of like a courtesy thing where Warrants dont salute each other and shake hands instead? Wonder if each Military Academy Of other branches has the same rule/regulation authority.??? I mean, that certainly seemed to be the case at Airborne School back in the day. America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Col. Anthony "Tony" J. Bianchi Colonel Anthony J. Bianchi is from Tampa, Florida and was commissioned in the Field. Mr. Mitchell is married to his wife Jill and has three children, Connor, Fisher and Sophia. Define "Duty", you know as opposed to "Education/Training". Get off your high horse. CSM Craven has also earned the German, Chilean, and Australian Parachutist badges and is a member of the Prestigious Sergeant Audie Murphy Club. Appreciate your reply. The key to success in your career is understanding the strengths and weaknesses of your key players AKA your subordinate leaders and junior Soldiers. The Army is investigating a command sergeant major at West Point who used a semi-anonymous Twitter account to criticize elected officials and former President Donald Trump, the Daily Caller reported Thursday. It goes both ways and without Officers the Army would surely still fall apart. Master Sergeant Lane's professional affiliations include membership with the Audio Engineering Society and voting membership with The Recording Academy (Producers and Engineers Wing). "The purpose of West Point, therefore, is not to act as a glorified drill sergeant but to lay the foundation upon which a career in growth of military knowledge can be based and to accompany it by two indispensable additions; first, such a general education as educated . A the this leader our soldiers says to me that I did not ground the equipment right. Boy if it wasn't entertainment at its best. Death, disability, retirement, reassignment, or absence of the commander. In the military, XO refers to a second-in-command officer, or more generally, an executive officer.The XO typically reports to the commanding officer, who also goes by the names the first lieutenant and the number one. Sometimes cadets are relegated to less-meaningful duties, or endure some modicum of hazing as part of the experience. For example, if a division headquarters and headquarters company commander is temporarily absent, the executive officer as the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier who performs duties within the headquarters company would assume command and not the division commander. Some points I wanted to make sure I hit are: -No, you don't have to call them sir/ma'am or salute them, but you absolutely should show them the respect you would like to receive. Its like my father (retired CW3) taught me; " I don't have to respect you but I HAVE TO RESPECT your rank.". She graduated from Conway High School in 1989. of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the commissioned corps of the Public Health Service She entered the military in March 1999 attending Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson, South Carolina where she was awarded the MOS 75B Personnel . Officers and NCO's must realize alike that, they way you treat your future Officers (NCO's case) and the way you treat your subordinates (Officers case) will dictate how the military can and will be run in the future. Always seek the minority view of any situation or story! You are not a leader because you graduated from an academy. Share mutual respect and work together is the name of the game. We were enlisted in the Air Force for a two year enlistment. I respected his rank and expertise, but I detested him otherwise. Tired of all the "barracks lawyers" looking for some sort of designated, assigned, or "official" trappings of respect; absent the need to EARN that respect. I pray that you are only a LT yourself. She has always been passionate about how music and design can bring people together. NEW! The definition is enhanced further by stating Soldiers "present for duty." that When in Charge, Be in Charge applies. I work with my leadership and learn from them and they help to shape me to become a good officer. But usually, you're the one doing most of the work. Secondly, just because of this outdated regulation (considering no cadets are assigned to any deployed units) requires no customs or courtesy obligation from enlisted soldiers or officers. Thought about it and stored it away and drove on. Commander Navy Region Europe, Southwest Asia, Africa, n Senior Advisor, Installation Management Kabul, Afghanistan Share on Twitter; Share on Facebook; . No, I always salute them and treat them as officers, and I make sure everyone else does too, he replied in total sincerity. They receive paygrade of ~E-5 however they hold a higher position. We can feel confident we did our hob helping train a. Subscribe to our email newsletter to receive exclusive news, updates, and concert schedules for the band. A very interesting thread. 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